What's going on guys Zuko back with another dragonflight video we're finally here, I've finished the melee DPS tier set list not tier list the tears not tier setlist the tier list, oh my God it's been so long get your coffee!
So we are gonna break down all of these uh melee specs in the game and we're going to break them into a scoring system which I'll get to in a second, I've got them all right here this document that I'm showing you I'm going to put on my Discord channel so if you want to see all of this information all the detailed information it's on my Discord Channel after this video goes live, okay it basically explains why I gave a particular score to each individual spec like why the score exists.
Okay now we're going to talk about the scoring system really quick here so it's split into a couple different categories, we've got damage and damage is split into two so single Target damage is worth Five Points AOE damage is worth Five Points survivability is worth Five Points, utility is worth five points I did not just want to make a tier list based solely on the numbers that a spec was producing because it just doesn't feel it feels disingenuous like there's so much more going on with each individual spec in World of Warcraft and it's important to remember everybody's ability to survive everybody's ability to bring utility to the group whether you're in a raid or in Mythic plus right so um they all have different scores based on that and um uh it's important to keep those in mind when you're evaluating how good you think a spec might be on your end.
So that's the first part that's the scoring system it's out of 20, everybody gets a score out of 20, that's going to correspond to the tier list maker here you can see s tier is going to be 19 to 20 a tiers 18 to 18 18.5 uh B tier is going to be 17 to 17.5 and C tier is 16 to 16.5, that's how I'm going to rank everything I'm going to put all these guys in different places at the end of the video okay um the final thing I do want to say is that there's going to be no scoring here for Mobility oops I want to move that stuff for Mobility or ease of use those are actually really important metrics for melee classes and the reason I don't want to talk about mobility in this video is because it's kind of just a wash across the board, every single one of these melee specs has a lot of Mobility even DK for example gets two charges of their movement skill now plus wraith walk right so that's really really good, ret Paladin might be the only spec and survival Hunter would be a little bit like this too but they're the only two specs that have a little bit less Mobility than the rest of the group but honestly even when I’ve been running through all these Dungeons and playing them I have not found that to be any problem whatsoever.
I think that Ret Paladin actually okay as long as you're using your Mobility at the right time now it is definitely it definitely has a little bit less than like a monk or a rogue for example but on the whole I'm gonna say that Mobility is a bit of a wash that they're all mobile enough to make the content work okay so just keep that in mind um yeah that's what I'm going to talk about there so let's move my notes over to here so I've got them and um I’m going to get the video up here and I'll reset this to the beginning now I’ve got a long video that I'm just going to run through here and I'm going to go through each and every spec while I’m doing it and I'm just going to give you a little synopsis on why a little summary if you will on why I think each particular spec that I'm talking about deserves the role that it gets.
We're gonna start out with frost DK so Frost DK um the total score that I'm gonna give for Frost DK is 17.5 the survivability for Frost DK and the utility for Frost DK I mean for both specs of Death Knight are really really incredibly strong their survivability is five out of five and their utility is four and a half out of five, things like death strike, icebound fortitude, AMS, AMZ, 20 more stamina from veteran of the third war you know they get AMZ for a raid is really really important even in Mythic plus they can get blinding sorry which is your single targets done and then death grip of course being very very strong for frost in particular you're looking at frostwyrms Fury uh is also huge so that their total score that I'm going to be giving them is uh 17.5 their single Target is four out of five and their AOE is also four out of five.
They're actually quite strong on both of those fronts they're not like the best in the game I don't think but you can run you know a big breath of Syndragosa build to go crazy on AOE and you lose a bit of single Target damage or you can do kind of the the oblit build which we've been seeing right now which both has has strong single Target damage um and AOE damage actually it actually does fine on both of those fronts so it has pretty good flexibility as a couple different build options which is always a good thing to see and makes uh the spec much more flexible which is really good.
It's also part of the 100K club which I’m giving to lots of different specs to talk about their ability to pump out AOE damage and they need to be able to get over 100k at least and there are some specs in the game that I've been trying that have been really struggling to reach that Mark but overall uh Frost DK is looking quite good 17.5 there.
Let’s go to Unholy DK so uh once again the survivability and the utility are the exact same five out of five for survivability 4. 4.5 out of 5, for their utility they do actually lose out on the frostwyrms fury so I'm gonna they hit’s it's maybe not quite as good but the general uh utility that's there for Death Knight is incredible, excuse me is incredibly strong they do still get access to things like blinding sleet and the ghoul is like debuffing enemies all the time making them deal less damage to you and increasing the damage that you deal to them.
Their single Target damage wasn't super impressive to me um which was a little bit of a of a disappointment I do think that they have an actually they have a good single Target build they can bring to raid but it's not the worst by any means, but it just didn't impress me a whole lot and was a little bit more difficult to execute than um than some of the other specs in the game.
Their AOE damage of course is probably one of the best in the game um five out of five for their AOE damage, they um they just absolutely can crush it in AOE so actually no I had 4.5 out of five sorry for their AOE damage so um they're really really strong on the AOE front you can get huge epidemics the more the better and the more you scale into the later parts of the expansion for Unholy DK the better their damage is gonna get, so 17.5 out of 20 for Unholy DK.
Let's move to Havoc Demon Hunter, Havoc is in a really good spot it's been in a really good spot for the entire beta, they've picked up some amazing um shadowlands legendaries and Covenant abilities uh that just make them do incredible amounts of damage, they're part of the 100K club uh Unholy DK was also part of the 100K hub for AOE damage, so their damage for single Target I've given them a four out of five and their AOE is going to be five out of five, their survivability is also five out of five things like consume magic um they just get 10 leech when they’re in meta uh they get five percent leech all the time they just get illidari knowledge so six percent less magic damage taken at all times darkness is a huge thing, they can bring um they get lots and lots of healing from like the fell Devastation from Collective anguish the hunt gives you 25 more healing you have shattered Souls that you're kicking out all the time giving you more healing you can take um the necro Lord ability uh what was it called fodder to the flame sorry Father to the flame gives you that demon that will also heal, you get demonic Wards, blur is another good cooldown.
They just have so many cooldowns that make them really really tanky their survivability is five out of five, their utility I'm giving them four out of five they do have chaos brand for the raid that's five percent more raid wide magic damage your casters are going to thank you and of course they have imprisoned for Mythic plus Sigil of misery, chaos Nova, Darkness once again they have a lot of tools there so 4.5 so in total Havoc Demon Hunter is 18 out of 20, very good score for them.
Feral Druid, um really good survivability five out of five for survivability and five out of five for utility they have bear form tankiness, they can get barkskin, instant free regrowths, survival instincts is there um they've got renewal a lot of good survivability for utility, they get Mark of the wild three percent versatility for the entire raid if you want it uh for Mythic plus you have things like Cyclone, typhoon, Maim is a single Target stun, Mighty bash to single Target's done stamp Roar for raid and Mythic Plus innervate for healers mass and Tangle ursul's Vortex it's insane guys they get so much utility so five out of five.
For utility five out of five for survivability their damage I'm going four or four out of five for single Target and four out of five for AOE um they are also part of the 100K Club I don’t know if I show it here in this footage but there are multiple times in dungeons where I've gotten over 100k, there's just a really good package, now here's the survivability kicking in my healer isn't here I'm just keeping myself alive with free regrowth and then I do a convoke here gives me a couple of extra healing as well so overall package for Feral Druid is very very good and um I’m giving them 18 out of 20 for their score the um the play style for feral druid just feels so fun to play now and it was very frustrating to play in previous expansions where you had to really manage your energy uh much more tightly than you used to so anyway Feral looking very strong 18 out of 20 for them.
Survival Hunter moving right along here um their survivability is one of the worst of all the classes here so they only have survival of the fittest which is a two minute cooldown, they have turtle and they have exhilaration healing and then they get 10 Leech from their pet but that's it like think of all the other specs that I've listed just multiple multiple DRS and healing so three out of five for survivability on Survival Hunter uh kind of an ironic name.
Five out of five for utility though they have an intimidation stun from their pet they have a binding shot, scatter shot, crank shot, tar trap, freezing trap, high explosive trap, steel trap, disengage, misdirection,n camouflage, Harpoon, it's insane like they just have so much stuff going on there they also have the new owl Talent which I haven’t really tried yet and it might just be bad but five out of five for their utility okay.
Three out of five for their survivability, now in terms of their damage their single Target damage is actually quite good and I'm giving them 4.5 out of 5 for single Target damage it was some of the highest that I was able to pull off you can see the Mongoose bites hitting there for over 100k if you play it properly which again guys I’m never playing these all like 100 optimally so just keep that in mind lots of you guys can probably play this better than me but the single Target damage I was very impressed with I really enjoyed how hard it was able to slap with those Mongoose bites so really really good there, their AOE damage is also quite good if you do a bomb build there's the new Bombardier build it’s also very very strong so I'm giving them 4.5 out of 5 for their AOE damage as well.
Overall package on damage is survival Hunters actually doing well um they're able to pump out quite a bit of damage the footage I wanted to show you here was just of the single Target damage because it was some of the highest that I did on any of the specs you can see we're beating the wind walker Monk on single Target damage here so um it's good it's good guys survival Hunter is looking good it's only real drawbacks are the fact that it is not not as tanky as some of the other specs have been so in total the score for survival Hunter is 17 out of 20, it's really losing some points because of the survivability there that's really where it's lost most of its points and that’s an important factor to keep in mind when you're seeing um how all these specs are playing out because if you can't survive on your own in a key then you know you're kind of in trouble there.
So let's move on to wind walker monk, big big AOE damage from windwalker monk they are getting five out of five for their AOE damage um coming into dragonflight here you can see they're definitely part of the 100K Club getting up to 120k on this pull, their single Target damage is also quite strong you saw in the last video it was really good um so I'm giving them a 4.5 out of 5 for single Target damage it’s it’s very very good, the rotation is smooth their survivability is also good and their utility is also strong.
So survivability is five out of five you have things like afterlife passive healing you give expel harm detox, Fort Brew, diffuse Magic, Eye of the Tiger dampen harm and touch of karma they're all there so lots and lots of ways to keep yourself alive, utility they have the Mystic touch debuff for the entire raid makes the boss take five percent more physical damage that's really important paralysis, ring of peace, leg sweep for Mythic plus so um lots of good utility coming out of the Windwalker Monk, they have a bunch of passive things for their allies now too in the class tree so close to Heart gives all your allies like eight percent more healing which is ridiculous generous poor is four percent avoidance for everybody which I'm sure you guys have seen in your dungeons wind walking of course is four percent Ally movement speed so wind walker really does have the entire package and they have a 19.5 rating out of 20 um they are very strong right now and I think that it's uh it's probably probably the best melee class we'll check at the end but very strong for Mythic uh for monk there.
Moving forward Ret Paladin, holy cow this thing absolutely is blasting in Mythic plus I'm having I'm having so much fun with it um their AOE damage is five out of five for sure it's just really good you can see it they're part of the 100K Club I believe I hit it in this if not on the next pack yeah I think we get over 100k here there you go, their single Target damage is fine I'm gonna put it at 3.5 out of five there's definitely moments where it’s frustrating and I don't like playing execution sentence at all not saying you shouldn't play it it's actually very very good it's probably the way to go in a raid environment I just it just I just hate the cooldown honestly I hate the way that it plays I don't like it at all um um it's their damage though is is okay in single Target it's not terrible but it's not great it's certainly not as good as my survival hunter that I was Finding so 3.5 out of five for their single Target damage.
Now survivability for ret Paladin is also a little bit lower they're kind of down in the lower ranks they're a survival Hunter they only have shielded Vengeance and then they have a little bit of healing from Judgment of the light and golden path and then they have selfless healers so they can get that flash heal going and then they have bubble like they basically have nothing they literally don't even have a single Dr like a damage reduction at all you can take one but then you have to get rid of your Shield of Vengeance, you can take Divine uh protection but then you have to get rid of your Shield of Vengeance you don't really want to do that so survivability is actually very low for rep power and 3.5 out of five their utility though is off the charts they have a new battle res they have blessing of Freedom blessing of protection bubble to soak mechanics, they have sacrificed Devo Aura, cleanse, repentance, blinding light, it's all there so in total ret Paladin is 17 out of 20.
Let's move on to assassination Rogue, assassination world I was honestly really disappointed with very frustrated trying to get them to perform really well at all this is one of the best pulls that I actually had here was doing 50k on this small little pack I'm I’m honestly not the best at assassination Rogue so take this with a grain of salt okay that's your disclaimer here but AOE damage I'm giving them three out of five, it's just they either don't do a lot of AOE damage or it's incredibly difficult to execute their AOE damage and for that reason I'm giving them a lower rank even if it's like even if it's like user error like it's because of me it's difficult in my opinion to pull off their area rotation and that makes them do less damage overall and makes them less appealing as a spec in my opinion so three out of five for AOE 3.5 out of 5.
For single Target there are some really really cool burst combos you can do like they have some incredible burst in assassination Rogue but like the consistent damage for me wasn't really there and that was kind of frustrating, however Rogue has incredible survivability and incredible utility probably the best in the game survivability they've got evasion, cheat death, cloak of uh Shadows you know magic your magic immunity there right uh Crimson vial, soothing Darkness a trophic poison is the new Dr iron wire is really really good for assassination Rogue in particular their utility they can give the whole raid three percent less damage taken from the raid boss because of a trophic poison really good again cloak of Shadows gives them that magic immunity so they can soak there, overall score for assassination Rogue 16.5 out of 20, wasn't really my favorite.
Let's go to subtlety Rogue, the damage on sub Rogue in my opinion was much much better the AOE damage you can see here gets pretty high I'm giving them four out of five for AOE damage and four out of five for single Target damage, they really just have consistent damage on both of those fronts every single pack that I was running in the Mythic plus here for my sub Rogue I was just hitting 70 to 90k basically on every AI pick it's always going to give you that consistent damage over and over again it plays really smoothly I think it’s very very strong it's definitely doesn't maybe have the burst potential of some other classes but it has the consistent damage there which is really really good on top of that.
Their single Target damage is very strong Shadow strike hits really hard, they had they have really strong single Target damage in my opinion so four to five there their survivability and their utility of course is the exact same as all the other Rogue specs it's very very strong if you take elusiveness with like faint and evasion you get extra bonuses if you don't think you're gonna need the cheat death although cheat death is always very good you probably don't want to spec out of that but elusiveness is actually very strong now giving faint faint gives you 40 AOE damage reduction with elusiveness you get 60 AOE damage reduction and then 20 just damage reduction all over the place so their survivability is absolutely insane.
The utility for uh sub Rogue actually goes up a little bit five out of five for utility because they have this shroud of concealment and then shrouded in darkness which gives your entire raid team 100 movement speed if they're standing in your shroud and and it lasts for 15 seconds so actually insane utility for a raid there it's like it's like a stamp Roar for Druid but like way longer so that's very cool overall score for sub is going to be 18 out of 20, and I think that they're very very strong uh in general.
Let's go to Outlaw Rogue didn't have really good dungeon footage here for Outlaw, my apologies there but Outlaw rogue's gonna get a single Target's gonna be four to five and AOE is going to be four to five as well actually they've really buffed AOE for Outlaw Rogue in dragonflight because now blade flurry has an eight Target cap instead of its old five Target cap so really really good stuff for Outlaw rogue their AOE is much stronger than it used to be and um their single Target damage is very good aswell, it's still the Frantic crazy play style that we all know and love the addition of thistle tea has really made the rotation for Outlaw Rogue in particular incredibly strong and it really helps to shore up those weaknesses when you're not getting your procs on pistol shot and you're starting to run out of energy makes it very very good.
So of course the survivability is there, again the one thing that Outlaw rule gets survivability wise that the other Rogues don't get is 10 more stamina so they just get 10 more Health at all times which actually makes them the tankiest of the three just on that front which is really good of course they get leaching poison like everybody else does three percent Dr from a trophic poison really if you ever die on a rogue it's gonna be your fault so here’s the score the total score for Outlaw Rogue is going to be 17 out of 20, so assassination was 16.5, sub was 18 and Outlaw Rogue is going to be 17 out of 20, it's just a little bit less thansub Rogue a little bit um has a little bit less damage I would say potential than sub Rogue it's actually very very close to being there but it's also just lacking some of that cool utility in terms of the shrouded in darkness which is which is very strong unfortunately outlaw kind of got shafted on the utility because they lost their raid wide buff from Restless crew but they still get 17 out of 20, good stuff for Outlaw Rogue.
Okay moving on, Enhancement Shaman of course this is kind of my baby and um but it has just been performing incredibly well even post Nerf this is post Nerf 25 Nerf is in their damage is so good guys it's crazy I'm giving them five out of five for AOE damage and four out of five for single Target damage, their AOE damage is just insane they're frequently like multiple times on multiple packs in in multiple dungeons where I'm getting over 100k uh DPS, it's just so incredibly strong and the build diversity for uh Enhancement Shaman is the best in the game, nobody has as many builds as Enhancement Shaman does none of them do so that's like a really important uh thing in in my books you get lots of a variety there.
Survivability wise they're five out of five and utility is five out of five because they have a 40 Dr with astral shift they get 20 Dr with ghost wolf they have Earth Ele, Earth Shield, reincarnation Nature's Guardian, ancestral guidance, healing stream totem, there is so many ways to keep yourself alive as an Enhancement Shaman it's insane and on the utility of course shamans always have the big tool belt right cap totem, charmer totem, Purge, cleanse, 12 second ranged kick, Earth Ele, Earth Shield, Windrush totem for the raid, hex poison, cleansing totem, Stone skin totem tranquil air totem, thunder shock, wind Fury totem, they have so many things they can offer the raid and so many things they can offer a Mythic plus group utility is off the charts so all together Enhancement Shaman is getting 19 out of 20, big score for them.
Okay last two here Warrior, arms Warrior first, damage wise arms Warriors looking very strong I'm giving them 5 out of five for AOE damage because they are part of the 100K club and there were multiple times where their damage profile was very very consistent like sub Rogue I never lacked damage at all I always had cooldowns up ready to go I was always pumping out a strong amount of AOE damage and the more enemies that you get the better that they do you know I'm only doing 60k here but if you get a big pack together they get well over 100k easily so really enjoyed arms Warrior a lot actually it's really fun to play single Target damage of giving them four to five because they’re getting really good execute windows and they have very strong damage even outside of an execute window mortal strike is hitting so hard but really it's execute that makes this really really strong in terms of single Target damage.
Survivability wise five out of five and utility wise five out of five, again they have so many ways to live guys defensive stance 20 Dr spell reflect, rallying cry, Victory rush to heal you pain and gain to heal your reinforced plates is 20 more armor Second Wind healing is insane it's off the charts leeching strikes bitter immunity is a new ability coming in, Die By The Sword fueled by violence, for utility they've got the battle shout for the raid of course giving everybody five percent more attack power and they have rallying cry to give everybody more Health which is really really good in Mythic plus, you have intimidating shouts, storm bolt um Wrecking and shattering throw and then Shockwave is a two seconds done so 19 out of 20 for arms Warrior, 19 out of20 for them good stuff.
Fury Warrior last spec here, single Target damage is four out of five, AOE damage is five out of five once again they're part of the 100K club they’re doing really really well and um they really pump in the in the DPS I'm doing 100K on four targets here I mean they’re really good on the AOE damage so really good stuff in terms of their DPS numbers.
Survivability wise and utility Mean warrior is just as I mentioned with arms worry it's insane spell reflect is so good rallying cry, defensive stance, Victory Rush um for Fury warrior in particular you get blood thirst you get enraged regeneration which is a Dr and gives you more healing if you die as a fury Warrior it is your fault every single time, they get gushing wound and they can make their gushing wound hit AOE um which means you're leaching off of all those enemies that you have a gushing wound on so really good survivability and then utility once again they have two really strong raid-wide Buffs five percent attack damage and 30 percent more Health with um the rally in Christ so very very good stuff for Fury Warrior they are also getting 19 out of 20 for their rating.
Okay so those are all the specs right there in order. Those are all the rankings that I’m going to give to them we're going to get to the tier list maker now and let's put them all into the slots that I want to put them into.
So let me know what you guys think in the comments down below about this list I am going to put this Microsoft Word document into the Discord if you're not in the Discord yet there's a link down below get in my Discord and you'll have access to this list that I have here and you can check out all the details of why I gave these guys the different ratings that I gave them, I'll also post the tier set list in the Discord it'll be there as well so thank you guys again for watching, I love you all, I'll see in the next one!