How to analyze logs
We've been sponsored by CrossRoads since the beginning of Echo, and they had approached us through Jinji. We were already using their product, so it was a no-brainer to take this sponsorship. The same company that does Curse Forge also supports Overwolf, called the Warcraft Locks Companion App.
Overwolf has 24 million downloads, whereas Warcraft Locks has around 700k, which is surprising to me. The app is very similar to the website, and I'm going to be showing some tips and tricks about how to analyze the rate logs.
It's not as complicated as it sounds; it will be quite understandable. I'm going to keep it simple, because I'm not very good at this either. There are some really easy tricks you should know, and we're going to look at this stuff.
um let's look at it's probably like or this is like the earliest Jailer prog let's look at that first there day one on Jailer guys okay I don't know if you guys saw they have this amazing uh phase by face separating uh thing which didn't exist back in my days but now it's really nice I would keep it sorted by date personally it's not really hard to find a good persons especially now that it is separated by phases uh you can also disable that and have the old view back but I think it is pretty good it's actually really nice um and now you know if you're especially if you don't you don't have to uh what do you call it like if you're interested in a specific phase of like how are we playing Phase One then uh maybe you check these posts like or you know if you want to check the wipes on a certain face right because that's what you're looking after uh let's say you want to know okay how did they perform and why did we wipe to phase ones like what can we do better next time uh usually you would do it as on the spot right right after the pull if you see something went wrong what did go wrong but you can also do it after a rate night I'd for example that I'm missing a rate night um and you know obviously it's also a lot more useful the tool actually the companion app if you are inside the rates if you are in-game rate leader which I'm sure a lot of you guys are are in-game player that wants to analyze suppose then this is much much uh more useful and uh yeah so you go through phase one and uh a lot of people just will look at this and look at the devs and that's it um I want to go quickly over some stuff here uh the first thing I think a lot of you probably know this but can't go without mentioning it uh there's also the call live function okay so what this also has which I am not using but maybe you are like disciplined enough to use it is you have a keybind that you can set um I believe here that you can use to call A vibe and then like here right now for me is alt L not so optimal but uh yeah you can call a wife with this basically call the L and then when you do that you can check later ignore events after that cold wipe I don't do this but it is technically really good if you do maybe I should I talked to Mary's and then we do do it but I don't know it does require some uh discipline to do this because you might forget to do it and then you have false data uh so yeah I usually do that after deaths and then you would either type like one or two here because for the first one you obviously have the common rest if you want to be super safe you usually type one and then you can see here what people lie to um wow okay this sounds like they had a lot of tactics oh wait hold up hold up what
we're gonna do also is we go Anonymous mode so we don't flame anybody uh this way you don't see any names or anything except for MC ghoul so if you see the tank DK dying a lot make you brought this up on yourself you link me these locks okay it's not my fault all right but uh you can see some really nice stats here what you guys are actually dying to and uh one interesting thing that I see here for example I'm not sure if it's classified wrong but I don't see them falling a lot uh that might be maybe counted as Rune of domination death but let me check uh you can always check the damage taken you go under F falling and they is this wrong I do think they usually concert like that you're actually not fall at all on your First Progress it usually does show Falling and as damage taken Cancun oh sorry guy guys guys I'm so sorry I haven't played in the with the UI here oh you can also make it desktop so that it doesn't like get attached to the game so you can move it to other windows and stuff right now I can't do that uh folded zero damage yeah I think usually fall damage would do so that's like pretty impressive I don't know how they manage that but they seem to have a lot of deaths to multiple people jumping down to the same thing probably or just uh let's just analyze some of these devs uh let's see for example um the sky and then can we do events here yeah yeah it looks like he got hit by multiple bombs here uh this one was only one bomb but still killed it seems [Music] wait this is uh sorry no this is not correct he's not dead on all of these some of them are [Music] but some of them are multiple hits yeah you can see multiple hits but you don't see deaths here right now never mind that is incorrect uh but tldr is like you can see um what people were dying to which is a really nice thing um and you can see like for example Throne of damnation [Music] of damnation and uh-huh yes on this one five player side to it I'm gonna get some bombs exploded outside the raid and stuff like that you can check like I also like if you want to go and you probably like generally want to do is pull by pull and not in masses because you don't it gets a bit complex when you're doing it in too many pools but uh tldr is that you can uh uh oh it's because I'm an event view yeah you can you can see what you were generally dying to and try to fix that right like and you will also have some sort of memory from The Raid obviously hopefully like you shouldn't generally just analyze array from not playing The Raid but you know what happened kind of so with this data on top you can draw some conclusions a lot easier and you may see like sometimes things that you may have forgotten and then look into it after so after two deaths you see a lot of people die to misery misery miserable ends so they didn't soak uh a couple of times actually at least three times they didn't have enough people so but that might be because people were dying already beforehand but although actually not not really so there were certainly some soaking issues oh now you see some falling actually yeah they they actually didn't die to fall that's so good like holy [ __ ] our first day to Jailer we fell down a lot but I guess maybe they had a lot of practice from heroic I don't know uh but still still very good that you didn't fall down that much props to this Guild and I would have expected a lot more um you can also check uh stuff like uh this is a bit harder to see from the devs but uh I believe under debuffs and under domination one important stuff to check aside from damage of course is uh how many people got mind controlled so this is uh you know definitely a big one to look at and if somebody is like getting hit a lot here if this was let's say three and uh other people are at one or zero then this guy is probably doing something wrong right no but it is through old enough by customer but I'm looking at phase one and I guess like you guys maybe I have very low expectations because of the experience I had on this boss but I can assure you on phase one with no knockbacks we had a lot of following this people just fell down those holes Left Right Center bro like you would just like Look Away look back and three people fell down you had like no idea why okay so this is good I'm telling you there's nothing to do with the knockbacks we didn't do heroic trailer I okay that's uh probably not true but uh yeah the good stuff on that um what did I note down aside from that uh what reasons yeah okay so we have another thing we want to look at as well which is uh let's go to anduin okay I'm gonna show a lot of cool things that I'm doing which is not just like ah did you get hit by the spell and stuff although we are going to start with that okay I can I guess uh is there to kill somewhere here I guess we can go back like usually I would go now to guilds and select my own Guild but now I'm gonna go through my ghoul because there's some other guild holy [ __ ] look at those rankings plus this guy is pumping boys this guy's a blaster holy [ __ ] wow no wonder I mean he is a scribe mod since the years so not even joking we killed heroic trailer once after we killed it on Mythic but really how did you guys not fall down bro that is crazy okay uh yeah back to anduin topic so one thing that even though it like this is my last thing that I check it that is like yeah just standing in stuff or like dying to stupid [ __ ] uh that is a damage thing I'm gonna check your kill night okay check your kill now because by that a lot of people should have learned it we're gonna select this all encounters including the kill and we're gonna check damage taken by um what's the swirly call I think it's Soul explosion which is solex version yeah we're gonna check this and how many people got hit because this stuff was quite dangerous and you could die to actually do you have any deaths let's see okay this is uh not the kill [ __ ] I first thing I thought I was only looking at the kill all right so we're gonna check tall explosion so here you can see for example like ideally you have a knife with more pulls and obviously this is like they're good at this point right so they're a bit better and they won't get hit if I check their earlier and in progress there's probably a less a lot more hits I'm assuming um let's say like uh [Music] that day here so one thing on this is like a lot of people die too is the soul explosions usually it is more often healers like you will see healers always on top in general if somebody is getting hit by swirlies it is probably gonna be healers like healers are just they just struggling to stay alive like I'm telling you it's a harder class to play you gotta cut them some slides so whenever you see a Healer while playing a game you should just be like let's just you know stay away from this guy who the [ __ ] knows what he will do don't trust them you can't trust healers okay and that's fine they're I'm not saying they are bad but they have more to do so uh they tend to be uh they tend to get hit by stuff more often and fail more often to mechanics than DPS players and yeah here you see um don't look at the Damage Done by stuff it's way more important to check the hits and also this one I'm gonna guess uh there was the energy not lacking energy lacking on Android so they went here without any energy which is also why it's not mitigated right um but you see some players not getting hit at all while other people are getting hit by two of course some people are also the ones debating it and you know it might depend maybe some nobody went out to bet it so it's now in melee and it's much harder to dodge also at this point the boss is nerfed though so you can't Dodge them even if they're on melee uh you gotta keep like the whole picture in mind while looking at this stuff but it gives you some nice Insight of who's getting hit by stuff um now about enough about damage taken and fails we're also going to look at um what you can do in terms of damage done because a lot of times what people do is they go to damage done okay and here okay depends you don't need to literally look at the old Vibes but uh yeah uh what you can do is uh people look at the Damage Done or they're usually on a single pole and then maybe they check like okay who did damage to lost soul right okay the Monstrous Soul the guy that we got to kill in the intermission but there is a much better way to do this uh I don't have the pin here let me let me get it I always forget these pins so I have one that is saved and then I copied from there okay so the one that I use and this is like I'm gonna give an example from SLG as well which is amazing so when you're looking at this at this ad obviously the damage that matters is the damage below I think it's 40 if I'm not correct if I'm not wrong so you don't care about the damage done before that and a lot of people might be even just wasting time and wasting damage before that so how do you check the stuff that is like actually matters um for that you go to queries and you can do tons of stuff here uh like your your imagination is the limit and uh one that I will copy from here is okay so we're gonna do the classic it is this unit but it has less health or like it has low health so we checked the monster Soul unit ID here it's right here one eight three six seven one we copy that here on a3671 [Music] and then we check the resources HP percent and uh I mean it matters below 40 but maybe you start like from 42 you know because people swap early and stuff and they should and then uh you check the damage here it's up to you you might also just say 40 but you might also go 39 because it triggers a bit late but yeah for example what here why I'm putting 42 is sometimes for some of the Arcane Mage they might pop the touch of the Magi and then the touch of the measure explodes from 42 but it also does damage below 40 so uh you know you want to give some leeway for like big hits and stuff and then you create a pin and you would put this as a filter if you forget it you can change it later here and now you can across all poles see who did the monster Soul damage good and uh why does it not work I probably forgot to change the ID to properly one eight three six seven one okay I mistyped it and then you change the pin and now you see the people that actually did like really useful damage obviously if you don't have any problem with monster Soul if it's dying like no problemo then you might not want to check this right and then also another thing is this is of course taking all monster Souls now for you what is important might be always the second month or so because the first one is like bloodlusted and it's just killing overkilled and then I would more of more like go for a singular uh pulse and check let's say muscle stroll and then uh say I'm just gonna do it by zooming in instead of selecting a pull here and then this one like usually that you see it literally it literally just killed them I think um it could have been the march of the Damned as well I'm not sure but uh that looks like they it exploded yeah wait let me let me just quickly check the deaths on this uh okay remove this filter to see it actually and uh what the [ __ ] oh because I'm am I ignoring events why is it not showing deaths holy [ __ ] it's also super confusing me the the fact that this is anonymous wait we're just gonna check the debuffs on the red uh now I don't know if they got it actually it doesn't look like it okay they did manage to kill it but they could have died to it okay so that's what matters guys and uh if they did then you would go and you would check the you check the second ad and I see damn this Druid was really trying so hard to save his teammates while everybody was just slacking off okay and then you would be like hey player 20 what are you doing bro and uh they would uh you know you can have a better understanding here it's really nice to compare classes with classes to check if somebody's assigned to use their DPS cooldowns are they actually popping it good you see here at the touch of the match right it actually only he only hit him with the touch of the Magi so I'm gonna guess this was applied on the on the boss and not the muscle soul but stuff like that don't flame pleasure let's play 20. he's just uh not good dude he's just not good he's a bad player now of course this uh alone does not prove anything but uh yeah but player 20 also died early or something there he played trying to die before playing 19 as well yeah clearly proved that player 20 is just worse okay so now we have this as well and now what you can also do is you can bring this a level further and you can do like a general DPS analysis and this is the stuff that I believe that you guys will like quite a lot so let's say you're pulling and doing and you want to decide on a setup or like you will pull anduin tonight and you want to decide on your setup and you analyze the watch and you notice okay I'm doing what is important damage here the damage that is important on anduin is the boss damage it's the inside ads it's the like the the um what are they called the big guy and the smallest in the King small face lost souls are they important well we usually have too much AOE so they are not important uh are the fiendish ghouls or whatever they're called in the intermission important not probably not and uh what else The Remnant is important of course it is a good boss damage Grim Reflections are important and then what you can do is after deciding all of that is you can collect those spell IDs sorry so their unit IDs so 1830033 and here very important you don't actually put uh and here like you might like you want to show the damage on the monster soul and on the ground reflection let's say but because this is like a programming language type coding thing is an and relation would mean that the mob has to be a groom reflection and the mob also has to be a monster soul but a mob can't be both of those things so what you do instead is you do an or relation so it is counter DPS if it's the monster Soul or if it's a grim reflection or if it's the boss or if it's the remnant and you just chain them together and form this filter that filters out like lost souls it filters out the AOE like padding and stuff like that and then what you can get is a more what you call it 184 420 5520 184 version a better reflection of actually how good the classes are rather than just looking at uh you know separate uh mobs if you're smarter and if you're not smart at all you just look at the damage meter itself and you don't understand anything it just tells you who is good at aoeing which is uh not necessarily what you're looking for um okay you guys get the idea should I do it all by one by one you know what I'm not gonna do it on Android or do I [ __ ] I do it dude maybe maybe we see something interesting um okay so ideally you would have the unit ID source of written out somewhere if you're multiple times doing this but one eight one nine five four it's a bit harder when you're talking and doing it one eight one nine five four you know what for now we should ignore the boss damage [ __ ] it now I'm just doing it all now we're committed guys we're we're in it worth doing it that's fine one eight three four six three one eight four six four three was it three or four why three four six three four six three okay we have the boss we have the remnant we have the 520 whatever that is the end of the spare the endless doubt is missing I believe and then these are the reflection is there the march of the Damned is another month that we kill uh six seven one is also there okay [Music] just need the last one which is uh which is the and to installed one eight four four nine four four nine four uh you have this I've never done this by the way uh because I you I I don't count the boss damage when I do stuff like this because I know the boss damage is fine but I just did it now for fun and then you see this Druid bro is just player 19 you literally cannot compete with this guy okay this was this pull I have no idea what is how is he doing so much damage actually what is wrong with this guy okay we're doing this across all pulls now so this is where stuff might be lagging like I said but if we get a result and uh I don't know what happened player 90 on Apple but this warlock is blasting it and you see here you won't see like the lost souls you won't see the fiendish ghouls and stuff like that you see only the good [ __ ] 520 is there twice it shouldn't matter because like it won't count the damage twice but let's just edit it just to be safe but you know this is like an ore thing it's not just adding those things up it's checks it's just mob that if yes then the answer to this isn't like yeah copy all the damage together it's like yes if yes then it will do it if no it won't add it together so uh you'll see it should not change the number if it does I guess I'm talking [ __ ] but usually I'm not at this please do 200 mil again okay hey would have been embarrassing um yeah and now like what I do is I set this filter and then from there I will just keep this up all the time and I will just look at uh most of Soul damage let's say alone and it will automatically show me the stuff that is below 40 percent and uh if I really wanted to okay this is a bit weird now checking all the stuff there's 25 wipes usually you check it on a single pull if you're going in depth on like what ads are lacking in damage but uh if you did finish all it would not show anything because we have the filter on and then if you want to show stuff you can just quickly turn this into a decorator again and then it's like does some stuff on the graph which doesn't matter but you can see the like all of this damage is filtered out usually from the filter so you might another boss where this was like really really nice to do actually was uh I'm gonna show it next is uh McCool do we have some logs with actually do I have anything left over for Adam let me check uh no I didn't show it all okay oh another thing just just for Android itself guys if you're progressing I'm doing still for whatever reason on this was like if there are Grim Reflections up you should be attacking Grim Reflections and they're like checking government affection damage you should do that if you haven't done that I've done this so many times and if you see this because this is a thing that some players like you see player 20 or player 20 actually blasting the reflections good job uh a lot of players will just single Target the boss which is not good you wanna kill the reflections you want to get beat down with them especially uh number three reflection on the train number four reflection on the first wave and the damage on the number three now number two reflection on the second wave those are really important because lost souls are up at the same time people tend to AOE a lot more and then if they cast you wipe and that is the biggest biggest wipe reason on phase two uh and uh you should check those specifically and you can't do it like here with the number that's the sad part you need to when you want to do something like that you hopefully I mean you can't do it on multiple posts you gotta check like uh a singular pull and then what I would do is um requester to kill the first reflection but I guess they're not killing the second Reflections oh yeah okay because they skipped okay they have way too much damage they are skipping phase two that outplays me hard okay it's their tactic you should not touch the reflection you just nuke the boss because you're skipping phase two but uh technically the third reflection uh uh I think they're killing the first two together and this is the fourth one that they're killing you can also display it hold up with uh [Music] NPC deaths and this is the reflection one and I guess it's a relation to yeah okay so I was right this is the four and now this damage is really really important and if you see some people are not single targeting for example I don't know little sauce the damage is a little Saucier uh I would expect more damage on this fourth one but they don't seem to be it doesn't seem to be AOE splash I don't know uh no comments but uh yeah you want to definitely like find out who the Slackers are obviously a team is inside during this usually no not with their thing Okay the third thing what I'm saying it doesn't make any sense by the way because they are over gearing it and they don't need to kill these swamps uh they could technically just keep seeing them but uh [Music] it doesn't matter on this one because they have too much gear and they're not actually trying to defeat them technically they could just keep them cc'd and they reach phase three and all the houses appear but during progress this would matter uh so I guess it it depends a bit as well what your struggles are as a group for us it was killing this ad for them they just skip it all so he's Batman um okay now I'm gonna show one really cool thing for SLG uh actually how do I show it quickest I will need to go uh I'll go from here again because again I don't have this Guild shared with me directly and I hope that you guys have killed SLG let's see oh that is a long time ago actually when is it the skill didn't even exist back then oh there it is no it did exist okay now again this might not make sense depending on the guild or they actually didn't kill anything did you guys kill SLG mcfad what are these bosses so there's a sanctum already now it doesn't look like it oh dude yo you wait this is heroic who's Mythic yeah you didn't kill SLG it seems okay so that doesn't help me I'm gonna just quickly do that on our pool like everybody played insanely good with our SLG so it's fine and I'm gonna anonymize it as well uh go to Echo Logs and then we go to calendar and we just uh just press a random raid make it uh anonymous oh wait I need to do it uh when once I have found the the poll I guess let's do it because this one is really really good this helped me so much during SLG progress it was amazing um holy [ __ ] those are some race boys Justice I think they want there it is okay so [Music] has that some good pulls 45 pulls they make it anonymous and uh like it doesn't matter who did what here but it's more about the damaged profile and what you what I did here is I created this pin that because on SLG it was like the combat lock was lying to you so badly like you didn't actually have a clue which class was good this was like make driving me crazy during progress like what plus you want to bring well I have no idea because on this bus what matters is so many different things you wanted to see the Damage Done in the intermission on the absorb from the looking for the aoes right you want to see the strong Goliath damage below 20 and then you also want to see the skirmisher damage but only below 30 percent and uh I don't know if the boss damage is included here I don't think so yeah because that was probably Irrelevant for us because we were facing it at a specific time anyways so then I changed this to filter and then you had a I will show you the difference of like for like spotting uh good good classes see it attack tag okay yeah okay this is also a bit misleading because we probably changed setup during this and stuff during progress but you see the difference without Hunters looks so [ __ ] amazing and they are good but then the warrior is bottom like a warrior dog [ __ ] remove Warrior but then you see when you put it on filter war is actually pumping and DK is actually really pumping because they are doing some execute Shenanigans um which you don't seem to like you you would guess like Hunters are just way better and then how does actually not that insane uh there are I mean this also depends on DPS cooldown assignments of course and it's not like complete uh uh like completely just reliable without any additional info uh you know you might assign some people to pump when it's really good and they might do more damage and some others not but you know that right when you look at it and it's not anonymized and you know Gingy is assigned to do like big damage gets the pi and all that good stuff and uh you know I don't know uh back then I don't know who played Hunter but somebody's holding CDs for like the small ads that really die in five seconds but somebody needs to hold damage but uh you can drive like some really really good conclusions about how good classes are and you can see here warriors were really good and they were looking really bad do it much better than it looks as well right it looks not that great but actually when you look at it it's actually pretty good and you can see what are they good at well they do really good skirmisher execute damage I'm gonna guess I don't know because they're executing uh because they're like maybe far away sometimes I don't know actually why they do high scrimmage damage maybe it lines up good with their CDs um because they were playing I believe knightway here so I don't know why it is that good I guess like double like multiple starfalls or something no idea uh but uh looking at it the others as well and then you can see out of those right you can go to Goliath and you can see Goliath execute damage and stuff like that as well which is a lot different and you will see them short here from just Goliath damage without execute like you see the execute here probably the biggest difference in Warrior and then when you look at it like this and you see the warrior is way lower also the Warlock look at the Warlock he was born on the beach he bought a garbage for Goliath and then you see below 20 is actually really good right so stuff like this and uh it all possible guys with the work of Vlogs companion app much easier from the in-game stuff uh you can use it as the overlay I don't have not used it as a desktop thing but you can also do that and you can carry it to oh you guys don't see it now you can carry to a different window and use it like that as well and uh like I said in my screen it runs a bit faster than the Chrome but I'm not sure if that's uh true uh just how it felt and that's it this is I don't believe this is made for like looking at rankings and stuff um like in the you know standard ranking page of like DPS and stuff but more checking your guild checking specific players how they are like you can check their rankings as well but uh not like the overall rankings so that's it uh thank you for watching guys and if you want to get the companion app obviously you don't just go to work with Vlogs and get from there you get it from the panel below or if it's in the YouTube video from the description okay yeah thank you this was the sponsor segment a little bit but also actually a good one I think leading going into a raid prep you should uh you should really look into using work of locks more and better actually some more useful pins I forgot to say um I will show them here I'll just I'll also paste like this is my SOG pin you can check your own Guild maybe if you forgot or if you want to copy this in but this is also for SLG progress after I did get nerfed and the skirmishes started like 20 now so 30 um I think uh I think actually that's the only change yeah uh you can also another thing that we had a lot of giggles and also a lot of Tears with was IQD okay you might wonder like um We're not gonna find anything here we need to check the echo locks again dude wait hold up we're gonna go takealogues we're gonna show you the juicy stuff you all know you must everybody must have like one guy in their team that Flames their healers for getting Mana from their IQD instead of uh getting the DPS buff I'm sure you do yeah and you could check that with this as well you can put this filter expression and uh now I don't remember exactly how I did this anymore but you can here you can see the actual Buffs right and uh you can see what is this healing Buffs now this is just that's not healing but it's just normal Buffs um I believe it was on the resources and Mana oh you can see the HP so you can see GG Pro healed Ken I mean nothing wrong with that you can't blame somebody for that you know somebody might lose HP sometimes um but it's anonymized no no you know just in case and then you can also see like yeah who stole your Mana right you see it a lot of times it actually gives Mana uh oh here on the on the kill as well I don't know why it didn't show up before maybe I did something wrong with her you see player 12 and player 15 both giving manager player 10. this is like this is like a massive thing by the way it's like a big big DPS loss actually a big manner for the Healer but uh this is also the stuff that you can do like to analyze your logs you lack some damage you know like the classic uh DPS grind boss I don't know you're on hollanders or something or I don't know some sort of Boss where you're lacking the damage and then you can see who like what did the IQD actually do you can see some execute damage happening sometimes as well on uh I didn't check that but uh Damage Done by able to name probably uh no but if you can if you fiddle around with it a bit you can you can find out if it if you did execute damage I don't know what this is by the way what the hell but uh like there was on Sylvanas a little mob spawning right the trash mobs and uh you can find out who got hit who executed mobs by mistake with that and if you did the timing good you wouldn't execute and you would get the buff but sometimes you would execute mobs and just like random mobs that don't do anything and waste a massive trinkets right it was like huge DPS huge massive DPS loss definitely definitely don't want that and want to pay attention to that and if you see a Healer consistently stroking Mana with IQD you might be like hey bro you gotta fix your Mana right like you can't do this you're hinting the whole team and also you can see is this drinking even worth playing because you might be just wasting it all the time on Mana which is potentially not even important and uh instead you could just equip another different trinket that is much better is that well no it's not well we didn't have willow on the kill but it's fine right we're not blaming at one counting so can you calm down canix calm down okay this is a peaceful stream there's a hashtag ad moment everybody calm down it was Ken and one of us can it's guys no it was canvas jinji heal them I don't know if it was can no comment my point is made and that's it okay that's it for the work of Vlog segment again remember thank you for awkward Vlogs for sponsoring about not work with us but overwolf and the desktop companion app thank you for sponsoring us you can get it the panel below uh from the 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