What's going on guys Zuko back with another dragonflight video, how are you all doing, grab those coffee I hope you're doing well, a lot of stuff I just want to say at the end to this video we're going to talk about Marksman Hunter today I’m going to talk about Mythic plus kind of build for Marksman Hunter I am going to show some dungeon footage from a plus10 algathar Academy, so there is some actual footage of this this is post to Nerf post aim shot NERF which was 15 less damage on AIM shot.
It wasn't the end of the world honestly I played my rotation really badly here and I still did lots of damage so I wouldn’t worry too much about that this is going to be the beginning of sort of a range series that I want to start doing um focusing on a lot of the ranged dpsers in wow and um I want to get as many of them done as I can up into basically releasing another tier list video on the ranged specs so I’ve been fiddling around with Mage and I’ve already got BM Hunter and Marksman Hunter kind of figured out oh my God nono no stopu m so we're going to start that we're going to do a big series on the Range DPS and we will get to the tier list later thank you guys so much for the support that you showed me on the melee DPS tier list I really do appreciate it I read all your comments and um you all had a lot of really lovely really really nice things to say so thank you so much for that feedback, it means the world to me, I've really enjoyed making it and we’re gonna do that with the range people.
Hunter Talent Tree
So let's talk about Marksman Hunter and again there has been a 15 Nerf it's not the end of the world just to aim shot so you can kind of get a lot more damage particularly in AOE you can get a lot more damage out of the rest of your abilities as well, so what is going on with Marksman Hunter let me start with the class three really quickly and say that you don't have to take the pet stuff over here on the left which is really really good excuse Me, so you don't have to take two four five Talent points over in the bottom left because you don't have any pet stuff you are in fact running Lone Wolf so you do get the benefits of not having a pet in the sense that you get uh fortitude of the bear which is another defensive now you can get 20 more Health, you can have your 20 Dr from survival you can have your heal from exhilaration, it’s looking pretty good for Marksman.
Defensively it may be a little bit stronger than survival or uh BM but yeah the nice thing about not having to take these talents is it frees you up to take other talents and there’s an interaction that I didn’t even realize existed until right now hydra’s bite causes your surfacing to fire two additional arrows so three in total if you have serpent stalkers trickery you literally get three serpent stings for free which I had no idea, now I feel like an absolute but look at this boom every time you fire an aim shot you get three serpent stings, is that good or what, let's faint death again but half of this video is just gonna be me feign death thing I didn't realize this interaction existed and I did not take this into the dungeon footage that I'm about to show you.
So there is absolutely more damage that I could have been doing I was also doing kind of a Kill Shot was trying to experiment with the kills hot stuff and unfortunately it's it’s okay but man it doesn't feel that great so I was taking serrated shots before but you don't have to I think if you wanted to try doing a Kill Shot build with death blow and razor fragments you absolutely could go serrated shots it doesn't feel that much better tome right now but we'll talk about that later, so the flexibility for Marksman hunter in the class tree is huge you can get hydro shot you can get death shock room you can get explosive shot or a barrage if you really want to buy lots of really good stuff going on there.
Marksmanship Spec Tree
Okay let’s talk about the spec tree, let's get into this I did as I said experiment with deathblow and razor fragments which if you don’t know is the whole Kill Shot line that we used to have as a venthyr hunter in shadowlands so now it's tied to aim shot and Rapid Fire of a chance to give you a charge of kills hot because your next kill shot to be usable on any Target regardless of their health and then Razer fragment says when your trick shot effect ends or Fade or if you get death blow your next Kill Shot will deal 50 more damage and Shred enemies which is exactly what they did in uh for venthyr shadowlands except it was tied to uh the Covenant ability there so it didn't do a ton of damage overall do have an overall number here so it ended up being like 2.8 percent plus the razoring so it's almost five percent of my damage which is not bad for two Talent points it's kind of it’s kind of bad but it's not the worst.
The problem is like it does lock your gcds a little bit as soon as death blow process you need to be pressing kill shot if you don’t you're wasting it so or certainly when the Razer fragment part proc so it’s okay but really you kind of just want to be pressing aim shot and Rapid Fire and multi-shot like you just want to be cycling between these three and getting as many of those in your true shot window as you possibly can so I wasn't impressed with the kill shot stuff, I think if you like really Minmaxed it you could make it do a lot more damage maybe not a lot more but like maybe three four percent more damage than what I did with it but realistically that might be like too frustrating to kind of pull off on the right hand side here.
Unfortunately things like Legacy the windrunner and windrunner's guidance are just not that great right now the whole coalescing wind arrows from your aim shot is just not performing very well wind Arrow itself just doesn't do a lot of damage that is an unfortunate reality of this so I think if they tune this a little bit more then it would be better but like the fact that aim shot only has a chance to have this happen and then for the extra wind arrows that you fire to not really warrant the amount of talent points like you’re putting two Talent points in here and the Damage you're getting out of itis not enough to justify the points right.
Now on the left side of the tree you've got light ammo heavy ammo we'll talk about this for a second this is really interesting, so your Baseline uh trick shot when it procs it means so your multi-shot has to hit three or more enemies and then your next aim shot of Rapid Fire Hits five enemies if you take light ammo it now hits seven enemies if you take heavy ammo it only hits three enemies it's actually like such a huge pendulum swing there from like your Baseline trick shot so you don’t even have to take the ammo stuff if you don't want to but generally speaking in Mythic plus You're Gnawing light ammo that's what I took in my dungeon footage because then you’re hitting seven targets with your ricocheting aim shots and so that's all that’s like the average pack size is going to be like five to seven to eight maybe ten but like five to seven is a very good like number there so you need to evaluate this based on what dungeon you're running into, am I going to consistently have seven targets am I going to consistently only have five targets or am I actually only going to have like three to four targets and you could take heavy ammo.
If you think it’s going to be on the lower side potentially something like Ruby Life Pools right now where there's a lot of small packs the Azure vaults is a lot of smaller packs actually but realistically speaking heavy ammo is probably only going to be reserved for like a three Target uh cleave raid boss fight that’s where I could see this being really significant so like a council fight or a just any boss in raid that's got three targets, otherwise heavy ammo is probably not that great.
We still have lots of really good tools like a double tap and volley those are huge really really important volley did have some interaction with Razer fragments because volley says it grants you the effects of tricks hot as long as volley is active and Razor fragments will proc when trick shots Fades or when you consume trick shots so there's some interesting Synergy there but again the kill shot stuff just was really underwhelming to me.
This is a really important thing I think the steady focused Talent is back where using steady shot twice in a row gives you eight percent haste I actually you really do feel this and at the beginning of an expansion when your stats get crushed your secondary stats get squished as you reach level 70 they're gonna go way down if you didn't know that getting eight percent haste from steady shot is really good and it lasts for 15 seconds so you don't it's really really uh good you don't even have to do it that much.
Finally let's talk about uh the middle section here before I get to that I’ll talk about Salvo, salvo's just really good multi-shot and volley give an explosive shot, my explosive shot damage really is huge I mean you're doing I’m doing it's doing 15 of my name now I have taken explosive shot as well but you can kind of double dip there right you get your own explosive shot and then you get the one from your volley or Salvo very very good let me just uh turn that down a little bit so yeah this is significant to me the explosive shot stuff.
Now let's talk about the middle section of the tree true shots huge of course you have to take a true shot it's your big cooldown Eagle talent's true Focus just makes true shot sort of do what it normally did in shadowlands, and it reduces the Focus cost of everything while it's up and it lasts longer.
Then you have a choice here calling the shots is the old school you know every 50 Focus spent reduces the true shots uh cooldown which is great and then there's unairing Vision which says while true shot is active you gain one percent Critical Strike chance and two percent increase Critical Strike damage, I found that the calling the shots is just always better in my opinion but I’d love to hear what you guys think if you guys are like a marksman main how good do you think on airing vision is, I haven’t experimented with it too much I tried it like once and I just didn’t really like it so let me know what you think about it if you're like a really good Marksman player and um you kind of know what you're talking about.
Second of all this second line here in the middle Gives You Lock and Load which is fantastic then you get whaling Arrow which is the new Big cooldown and they’ve sort of given to Marksman Hunters like an as like a little thing it does a lot of damage and it silences all enemies within eight yards for three seconds which is kind of outrageous in Mythic plus it's a really really good remember I talked about again for tier Set uh tier list purposes thinking about a ranged class what do they bring to the Mythic plus table AOE silence is insanely good for so many Dungeons in dragonflight there are dungeons where there's just casters standing there firing Spells at you and if they're all silenced for three seconds it's gonna literally heal your entire party like you're not gonna see the healing but you understand what I’m saying there like you are preventing the enemy from dealing damage and there’s something really significant about that.
Here’s the choice node that you get underneath of it first of all there's the wind Arrow one whaling Arrow fires off five wind arrows at your primary target and 10 windows at secondary targets again I've tried this and the wind Arrow damage is just too low right now in my opinion but the other node is very good whaling Arrow resets the cooldown of Rapid Fire and generates two charges of aim shot so now with wailing Arrow it's kind of this ability that you want to dump once you’ve dumped your other Big Spenders especially rapid fire, cannot stress this enough you must have rapid fire on cool down before you press whaling error because again it helps you generate so many resources and Rapid Fire does the most damage of any ability that you have it does 53 000 damage aim shot only does 29 000.
Rapid fire does so much damages firing off like a rapid fire like you get your true shot window right and you go you probably want to do actually the railing Arrow stuff before you get into your true shot window so you go like you know multi-shot into aim shot uh rapid fire aim shot and you're cycling through and then you do a big whaling Arrow into one more multi-shot rapid fire and then you go with true shot it's something like that so let me show you the damage here.
That’s all I want to talk about for the talent tree unfortunately wind runner stuff is kind of bad Kill Shot stuff is kind of bad it's sort of the tried-and-true standard Marksman stuff that is really good you know your aim shot rapid fire with stuff like steady Focus getting double tap getting volley and then getting these extra bonuses at the bottom here's what it's going to look like.
Okay so I'm going to start with double tap I’m going to throw out my desk shock room get explosive shot going and then we’re going to kind of go okay double tap do desk chakra explosive here I didn't I actually shouldn't have done death shotgun first I'm really sorry but yeah it's fine I overlap resources there but it's okay so we'll do this then we'll do this one more time and then we're gonna go wailing Arrow to get our rapid fire back okay and then we go here and then we're gonna go true shot here we go baby get our volley out there so we can get a couple of is that right away okay sorry guys that’s the twitch notifications got the trick shot effects I just have the standard trick shot here and I don't have plus two Targets I don’t have minus two Targets this is just kind of the stocks in it so you don't have to take the thing that's gonna give you more Targets on trick shot or less you could depending on the dungeon.
Again I think you need to think about that what is the dungeon gonna be like oh I got a Lock and Load there that’s huge we're gonna steady shot twice to give us our haste buff then we're gonna go back in our regular rotation, volley’s coming back so I want to think about that right you want to have a couple resources available for volley okay we're gonna double tap here into volley then we're gonna go aim shot into a rapid fire for the volley conception there volley's over we gotta do our regular rotation again with multi shots volley really just in the true shot window volley is super huge here's whaling Arrow to give us our cool down back okay there we got extra resources from rapid fire really really good we’re going steady shot twice to get our haste buff then we'll use our aim shot then we'll do this again another aim shot, death shotgun's coming back let’s do two steady shots in a row if you’re ever going to press steady shot you should probably press it twice because otherwise you're kind of wasting that that haste value that you're going to be getting there.
Okay so true shots coming back you can see we're sustaining about 70k, 75k here on uh four targets which is really really huge I'm gonna do volley with true shot okay so double steady shot into true shot volley here we go big, big damage because it reduces the you can get so many more abilities into that volley window when you have true shot up it's really important that you do it that way.
Okay now we're just doing standard stuff we’re gonna get whaling Arrow back at the end of our true shot window which is really good because then we can get our rapid fire back, okay so here we go we're gonna do this and we’re gonna wailing Arrow to get rapid fire back really really good stuff there it helps you generate so many more resources so that's that that's the gameplay there um and again the the new edition of the serpent sting stuff man it's huge like look at serpent sting that's massive that you can combine serpent stalkers trickery with hydra's bite.
I would highly highly encourage you guys to do that because aim shot is guaranteed to fire a serpent sting so you're going to get damage out of that every time so this is what your DPS might look like with this build, I will link this down below I will link my actual talent tree down below in the description so aim shot, multi-shot, Rapid Fire, explosive shot, serpent sting that's what you’re going to be getting there.
Mythic Dungeon Footage
So let’s go over and look at some dungeon footage I’ll just get my camera there we go new camera so this is single Target damage this is with a bad build guys I'm not really running a good build here I learned a lot since doing this uh test footage uh an hour ago or so but um it’s not terrible it'll do okay but the single Target damage is not super good right now it would certainly have a lot more once I uh did the build correctly with the talents that I have right now so again I will link the talents that I’m that I'm using on the dummies here I will link those in the description down below.
We're still doing 30k like it’s not terrible but I think it could be actually way better soum yeah I did press volley there because volley ends up just being free right uh volley literally costs no resources to use and so I think for that reason it’s good to use it on single Target it does like 45 000 damage or something it does a lot so here I'm having to use my defenses to stay alive I have one more defensive still which is my survival the fittest and I think I use it at some point but I gotta get out of here, disengage get me out of the way of that’s your damage Falls quite a bit here, I do have the kill shot stuff going on here there's rapid fire another Kills shot proc so it's okay.
The kill shot stuff I was really trying to get it but you can see the damage really has fallen off her there's my survival I actually popped turtle by accident trying to stay alive but the survivability of marksman Hunter I think is actually not bad because they have that extra defensive cooldown that survival and uh BM don't get so here's some big AOE damage this is you know algathar Academy the standard kind of AOE stuff you can see we're already up to 80k right off the bat then I put volley down here I think to get tons of damage here I think I die really quickly because these guys.
There I do whaling Arrow AOE silence we’re over 100k but I end up getting focused down here which is really frustrating I did binding shot everybody but um then I get I Get Wrecked from all the agitation so I'm not able to sort of get my full DPS rotation out here but that’s okay we're gonna push forward and we'll get the next pack here.
This is really good lots of big damage here I double tap my aim shot I think here or my rapid fire look at that over 100k just right off the bat boom 170k, 180k we're keeping up with the Demon Hunter so imagine if you were playing this rotation correctly unlike me half the time so this has tons of potential it’s very very good in my opinion the AOE damage for Marksman Hunter has a huge ceiling if you're playing it really well you will do tons and tons of damage and again it's up to you how you want to decide to do your AOE damage, do I want to go with the stock standard trick shot build where I get five targets do I want to do light ammo where I get seven targets or do I want to go heavy ammo where I only get three targets but I do more damage to those three targets.
It’s really up to you but I've really enjoyed playing this it's so simple you just fire down the volley I'm doing 125k just boom boom boom man it's like it's just so easy to do that and the look 140k you just throw down volley and you get these huge ricochets going on this was with light ammo in this dungeon so I was getting the seven Target cleave, just keep that in mind I was getting seven Target cleave.
Here's the overgrown ancient boss fight this one's good again I wish I had the build that I'm trying on the dummies right now because it would have done more damage but this is where you want the seven Target cleave I think my wailing Arrow would have been good here but I don’t think I press it, I was trying to get maximum value out of the razor fragments from Kill Shot and again it was okay but I'm just I’m telling you guys overall it just really lacked uh from what I saw so that was you know a little bit frustrating but we’re doing 60k on the boss fight, it’s not terrible don't get me wrong this isn’t bad at all but um and I'm not playing very well so we this could be much better but um supposed to shot this should be a big explosive shot here boom yeah up to 53k there once again my true shots back so unfortunate timing because I would have liked to get maximum AOE damage there but volley’s back volley just hit so hard man we still got true shot running.
I do have a razor fragments right now but I don’t have the other Puck that's the problem again with the Razer fragment thing is that you have to get death blow and razor fragments before you can use kills hot on a Target that's not in execute so it's kind of like we're up to 82k it's actually not bad damage at all but the kill shot stuff is annoying in that sense that you need both of those parts to proc for you like you need the death blow to proc and then you need the razor fragments part to proc to and I just I found that that wasn’t happening all the time so I don't know if that's a bug or if I wasn't maybe I’m explaining that wrong but let me know in the comments down below if you guys have really experimented with that you Marksman people.
There's my defensive I’ve got a rolling I would have died if I hadn't popped um survival the fittest there so that was really good you do get full healed from that guy Didn’t realize that but the Demon Hunter comes screaming back up to 95k on this boss man we're doing good damage guys I’m doing 84k right now like it’s actually fine this build but I think there’s a better way to build this I think the build that I showed you on the dummies is better and again I will link that down below.
So there's the overgrown ancient fight 82k overall not bad whatsoever got some cleave here I do love all the all the explosive shot stuff that I end up getting you get the explosive shot for free because of Salvo at the bottom of your tree and then you get to fire off explosive shot it just gives you so much uncapped AOE damage like yes part of your kit is capped on its AOE damage because you only get five seven or three Target cleave with your ricocheting that’s going around with trick shots but you get things like volley you get things like explosive shot and you get sorry about that and you get Salvo which is going to be giving you another explosive shot so there are multiple other ways to be getting your aoe damage, also whaling Arrow hits all Targets so um very good.
We're doing 64k here once again good damage transition into this next pack, the damage is fine could be better I'm not playing it perfectly keep that in mind never I'm never really playing this perfectly but um the damage I think is ais acceptable for what we're looking for in the Mythic plus environment for dragonflight, this is perfectly fine you're going to be doing lots of damage as a marksman Hunter and it basically plays the same way that it always has here's a big wailing Arrow I think here I fire this off and then I double tap into something there’s a big whaling Arrow there everybody’s silenced look at that they’re all silent so some of those guys are spellcasters obviously if they’re physical damage dealership doesn't do anything but see Astro bomb they’re trying to cast Astro bomb now they were they wouldn't you know they were trying to cast that before and they weren’t able to so really important to just understand what your class is able to do in terms of CC and what does your class, bring whaling Arrow, having an AOE silence is pretty disgusting not gonna lie.
So here is the final boss fight this is Echo of doragosa, so what do I think about Marksman Hunter overall I think I need to play it better that’s step number one but step number two I think it actually has potential to do really good single Target damage and really good AOE damage the only real drawbacks for Marksman is that they are again they're still a hunter so they have less survivability than almost every other class in the game even priest is almost better than us now it's probably a tie between priest and Hunter but like The Marksman hunter in particular does have that extra button you do get the survival of the fittest and then you do get this 20 extra Health bonus because you don't have a pet out because you have Lone Wolf so that is significant in my opinion and um gives you an extra little bonus there exhilaration healing is fine it’s really good, you still have Turtle I Just stood in that uh that's unfortunate don’t want to be standing in that breath there the poor healer man.
But utility wise Hunter has tons of stuff they can do binding shot tar trap you know you've got uh um your feign death and misdirection stuff you can go pull a bunch of mobs into your tank and then feign death, misdirect all those cool little tricks that you get to use as a hunter very very good the utility is really strong on marksman and when I get to the tier set video I'm definitely going to be talking about that damage wise, I really love the options for Marksman Hunter I love that there's the serpent stalkers trickery that spreads your serpent stings for you there is a potential Kill Shot build that I'm just not doing very well that you might be able to do better than me if you're better at this spec which you probably are but you get options like death shock room you get explosive shot and you get salvo giving an extra explosive shot you get your trick shots you can choose what you want to do with trick shots five, seven, three targets.
There's lots of options for you on Marksman Hunter and I really like that in a class Tree in a spec in general so thank you guys so much again for watching let me know what you think about Marksman Hunter and it will be getting into the tier list video eventually once I get there, thank you guys again so much for your support and all the love I really do appreciate it all so thank you once again I love you all and I will see you in the next one!